How to produce the kind of behavioural change required in populations to save the planet may be a question of law, a question of desire or even a question of force. Do we need tyrants or do we need anarchy? Do we need increased policing and surveillance or do we need local, collaborative initiatives? These are some of the questions that will be considered by key thinkers and policy analysts in this conversation. Most of us know we've moved beyond debates about whether climate change is happening. but talking about collaboration, obedience or even modes of community and cultural survival is frightening and difficult. This conversation is a step in this direction.